"What exactly are the duties of the school in protecting their students? Does the school's responsibility toward each and every student cease once the individual has stepped out of the campus grounds, or does it continue further than that?"
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School is like the second home of the students because most of the students spent more time in school than their own houses. Therefore, the school has duties in protecting their students. First, the school has to protect their students from the environment, since the students’ environments do not always bring good things to the students. Therefore, the school has to protect the students from danger environment by teaching the students how to behave so that they won’t develop bad habits. Also, since the school is the students’ second home, it has to provide a feeling of security to their students. We all know that the students in a school do not have to same demographic, so sometimes this will lead to chaotic between students. The school needs to be fair and listen to every student, and do not judge them by their normal behavior in school or their GPA. The school has a job that similar to the parents of the students. Therefore, the school has to responsible for most of the things that are about their students; not only when they are inside the school area, but also when they have stepped out of the campus grounds too. This is clearly shown through how the school reacts to the students’ behaviors. People normally say that students would bring either fame or notorious to the school. From this statement, school would care so much about their students’ behaviors outside the campus; because sometimes students do improper things while they are in school uniform, so this bring notorious to the school, the teachers have to warn the students for their behaviors out of the campus grounds.
School is everything to the students, therefore, its responsibility toward each and every student do not finish once the individual has stepped out of the campus grounds.
The school should provide a safe environment for students. For example, the school shouldn't let strangers roam around freely in the school campus. There had been an incident where stranger killed students in a school. Not only the environment outside of the school may be danger, but the environment inside may be danger too. Some students may have problems or cause problems. This is why school has a counselor.
In my opinion, I think that the school's responsibility stops once students are not in the school. It is because once they are not in the school, I believe they are not 'students' anymore as much as teachers are not teachers when they are not in the school. Students are what we are in school, but not outside the school. Also, once students are outside, they should be responsible for their actions. If some students have done bad things outside the campus, and other people blame the school for that, I think it is outrageous. Should the school always have to clean up the students’ mess which is caused from outside the school? In the world outside the school, it won't work that way. When a person does something wrong, the person must clean up his or her mess because no one else will. Nevertheless, other people will always link the students with the school together. Albeit a student has done bad things far away from the school, there will be people who will blame the school for the student's bad deed. Perhaps they think that school shouldn't let students have bad behaviors as such. This seems absurd as a reason to me because each person has a different personality, and it is not possible to mold everyone to be the same. However, don't get me wrong here that I am protecting the school. There are still some regulations, which I don't understand the sense of having them at all. For example, why can't students come back into the school once they are outside the school's area? If a student forgets his or her stuffs, wouldn't he or she be able to come back into the school and get them? Or, the school administrators fear that they will have to take 'responsibility' for their students’ actions?
In my option about this topic, there is no specific line to divide the school’s responsibly to protect the student. School are student’s second home, we spend here for most of the time. Being inside the school campus, the school has full duties to look after our safety from all harm. Including the safety of the campus, avoid strangers wandering in the school, and any accident that might happen in the campus. I have checked our student handbook; there are “closed campus policy” and “leaving campus early”. I understand the school having the policy to keep the students safe in the campus. However, I don’t agree with the idea that students can not enter the campus after they left; what if they left something inside. What are their concerns about not letting the students to reenter the school?
When students are outside the school campus, it is still the school’s responsibility to protect the students’ nominal. My thought is that the school does not have to be responsibility for the student’s safety (I know it sound strange). Simply because being outside the campus, we have to be responsible for our own safety (maybe the police can give some help =o=). But being the student of a particular school, the school does not have to be protecting the personal safety of student, since we are not in campus they can not see us, but they are to protect something more abstract.
Let me give an example! In Japanese, when the students happened an accident outside the school. The teachers are in full responsible to deal with the problem, unless the accident is too serious therefore the parents or guardian has to fix the problem.
In conclusion, the school does need to protect the student’s safety in and outside the school.
(Strange comment…)
School is a place where we learn stuff. It's where we spend most of our time in. It gave us a save environment to learn. The duties of school to protect students are to teach us not to do illegal stuff, like, drugs. But after we left the school campus, the school no longer needs to take full responsibility for us. Since, they did warn us, but we’re the one who’s choosing not to take the protection of the school. However, the school does need to take responsibility on our school field trips. Although, we’re out of the school campus, but school is the one who agreed with our field trips.
To me, the duties of the school is to provide us a place to learn and to study. It also helps us in making friends with others, teaching us how to socialize in our daily lives. The school's responsibility ends right at the gate of the school. When a student is on the campus of the school, the school then shall be responsible for whatever happens to this student during school time. However, when the student is out of the campus grounds, the school has no relationships with whatever happens to the student; simply because this student is no longer in school's controllable area. If the school's supposed to take care of students when they are outstide the campus, then the school will close one day, for sure. Parents will start to blame the school for the things that happened to the students outside the campus. The school, no matter of how much a second home it seems, is not the parents of the students.
If I’m the school’s manager, I’m not going to respond the security and the safety of students outside the school, and it is not school’s responsibility and impossible to take care the students’ safety outside the school. It is government’s jobs to provide the security for us to have the safety environment. The most that I can do as a school’s manager are warning, give some suggestion, and provide counseling for students for the security outside the school. If the surrounding of the school is not safety, I think this school had chose the wrong place at the very beginning.
School’s jobs is to provide the discipline, safety, culture, morale, and rules for the school’s environment, and this is not easy. Since a lot of schools already have so much students who smokes, and do some violence stuffs, I think TCIS already did a fine jobs or even good compare to those schools already.
One of the most important facts is culture. If a society have a positive culture, people at there will learn and affected from them, and being more productive, (mentally) healthy, or even diffuse, effect to other places. The strength of inner core is as important to provide these people’s a target and a goal to manage the school, the inner core will provide the specific target and clear direction for a group of people, which will not cause much confusion, whiled making the decision. Choosing the right officers, managers, teachers, students, and even the stuffs, because the right people will provide the right culture and environment, so the students will learn from them.
As the students are learned and affected by the school’s environment, and culture. I believe that most of the students will behave well out side the school. Providing the right ethic, value, learning, culture, and environment are already too much for students, and these are what the schools and education for.
Schools are places where students get their knowledge from and places where students should be protected as well. It is the school’s duty to protect the students because we are living half of our day in it, with no parent, only friends and teachers. But school shouldn’t protect those who don’t care about themselves. From my own interpretation, I think that students who did bad things usually should have revenges on them. We shouldn’t protect them so that they could learn from their mistake. It is not the school’s responsibility once the students step out of the campus. It depends actually, if the school is responsible or not. Some schools would have clarified that once student step out the campus, it’s not their business anymore.
Suppositly, the school's duties are to protect the students, teach them, tell them to separate whats good or bad and provide the good enviroment for us to stay in. However, back to the same point, who is to determine what's good or bad? For example, our school had been changing principle every two year or less. Each and every principle have different set of minds and different prospective. Some think that we should extent our school, but now, with that decision, the quality of our school students eventually went lower. More hard headed people are in our school. Let me ask, is our school a good environment now? One of the place where it influence a person the most is school. If we can't look at the most basic and only wanting to maximize the benefits who then are able to protect us? What principle think is good might not be the best for students. They usually tent to say it's for the protection of the students, but is that true or just a excuse for them to benefit themselves? Dress codes, hair style, elevator usage, detentions, and other stuff. True, some of them do have a meaning and a purpose to be there. However, in my own opinion, there are some that exsisted for the benefits of the teachers.
Remember the argument of the school and students on leaving the campus and entering again after school? I think that is one of the prove that schhol wanting to cease responsibility after students leave campus. It is only concerning to school's reputation that they eventually continue that "responsibility". Humans are selfish, that something we all know. When it concern to their benefits, they will interfear to what ever is there that stop their benefits.
Parents send their child to school believing/knowing that they will be cared for, taught, and protected from the the outside world. From different point of views, we people come up with different opinions on what duties the school should exhibit for protecting their students. In my point of view, and seeing what goes on in school, i believe the school not only should protect students from the outside world while in campus, but also from one another. From what we can see happening in school now are security guards which control the people coming in and out of the school. However, within the school itself, no one seems to care. I know for a fact in kindergarten that when the students/kids fight with one another, the teacher doesnt care and allows the students to fight one another. Is this right? I definitely hope that people wont think that this is the right thing to do. Also, there is a thefting condition within our school. It is understandable that the school isn't able to control some of these situations, since the students don't lock the locker themselves. However, isn't the school suppose to provide teachers who are responsible for teaching the students between right and wrong and thus teaching the students to not harm others in order to protect them? Last year, many student's stuff were stolen, when they reported it to the school, nothing was done about it. However, one day when a teacher lost his/her stuff, the school then decided to take action. Although i'm not saying that the school is wrong for taking the action, but then, for the many students who's stuff was stolen before that teacher, it was just plain unfair for them. If the school was going to take action they should have done it a long time before more theft could be done to other students and teachers. So according to my opinion, i believe that the duties the school should exhibit in protecting the students are to protect them from the world outside while on campus, from one another, teach them the difference from right and wrong, and to take action for them when it is needed not only for teachers.
In my opinion, the school's responsibility towards each and every student does not actually cease once the student has stepped out of the school campus. Although it does not go to the extent of protecting the students no matter where they are. For example, if a student is allowed to leave with a stranger and something happens to them, the school would have to take responsibility of what may happen. Also, when a students steps off school campus but is in an area near/around the school campus and something happens to them, the school should take responsible if the students calls or screams to the schoool for help and the school hears but wouldn't respond, or when a fellow students goes and ask the school for help to help their friend and the school doesn't respond. Yes, it may be the student's fault for stepping off the campus in the first place, but still they are still a student of the school and the school is in reach of saving them, protecting them. Plus, isn't that why the parents would trust their own child in the hands of strangers at this particular school? However, there are people in this school who thinks otherwise. They asked the parents to sign papers saying that once the student leaves the school campus, they will not take any of the responsibility as to what happens to them. Although,in the school's point of view, this is very much the right thing to do. However, to me, the school should at least protect the students when the students are in areas that are within reach to the school. In the case of our school, if the student is out of school but in the parking lot and something happens to them and the school knows and is able to help but does not respond, the school should take the responsibility. However, if the student is in Central Bangna and something happens to them, the school should and would not take responsibility for they are not within reach of the school and the school, not matter how much they wish to help, could not do anything about it.
School to us is like our second home, we maybe spend more time in school or learn more in school than we do in our homes. Our school has policies and rules to protect students' safety and helps the school to function and work better. The safety of students in the school is of course the school's responsibilty, but if the student is in the school breaking rules and in return harmed him/herself, it is to go under consideration, whether the school has to take the responsibility. On the other hand, if the student is outside of school, not anymore under the sight of teachers or school staff, it is their own responsibility to take care of themselves and be careful; because the school can't always have someone watching over you 24/7. However, if the student is outside the school doing the wrong things and a teacher sees it, it is best if the teacher stops the student, but if the teacher didn't, the blame still can't be on the teacher if anything went wrong. It might only happen to be that the teacher will be guilty not to stop the student, but he/she shouldn't take the responsibility because they are not in the school anymore.
School is a place where students spend most of their time. Most likely 8 hours per day. The duties of the school in protecting their students are for the students to provide a safe learning environment. The school must make sure that the students feel secure while they are school, so they can feel safe concentrate on learning. The school shouldn’t let strangers into the school ground if they have no connection to anything in school (students, business with school, etc.). If students don’t feel safe and only worry about what troubles them, they can’t concentrate on learning and will not learn anything, which is a waste of time and money. The school should also motivate the students into a bright and positive future. For example, motivate them to have a health life by not taking drugs, join gangs, or break the law. Of course its impossible for the school to do that because students spend most of their time with their friends, and no one know what their friend are up to. Since the school had done their work by motivating them, it is none of the school’s fault if the students misbehave, but the school is blame every time something bad happened. The school should also prepare their students to college by teaching them all the basic elements such as math, science, etc. It can also be considered as protecting the student from screwing their college career up. Once again, the school had done their work, which is not the school’s fault if the students don’t want to learn. School should hold students back if they’re not ready to be move on to the next level.
In my opinion, school’s responsibility toward every student ends as soon as they’re out of the campus. Since it’s their personal life and school shouldn’t pry into other people’s life. There’s a bad effect to this, since the student can go do anything they want and the school can do nothing. The students can bring these behaviors back to school and influence other students too, which means that there’s a limit to school’s responsibility to their student.
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The school is a community, it includes everyone in the school. The school’s duties are basically to protect students during the time they are in school. The school should provide good learning environment. As a community, maintaining good learning environment also covers caring for each other. For example, if students fight… everyone won’t feel safe. The responsibility of the school for students’ security ends from the moment they step out of the campus. However, the school as a community, it includes people…humans. The idea of the school is just a learning place. What really lasts are relationships that are build during the time an individual is in that school. It also matters how well those relationships are. If they are good enough, the responsibility for each other lasts longer and shorter if they aren’t good. Relationships can also be included in this topic because the school is a community. Therefore, each of everyone in the community should protect each other. Lastly, eventhough the school’s responsibility ends, they don’t have to…but they can still hold that responsibility.
Students spend most of their time at school, or if not at school, then with people they know from school. In my opinion, the school doesn’t really have a duty except to provide the four dimensional walls to close us within this world of the word, ‘school.’ I would say, even the higher people that control the school don’t really care about their duties in protecting their student because of the students, but rather their own faces. The duty of a school is to keep a student as far away from the dangerous parts of the society as much as possible. They give student protection most of the day, because that is where students spend most of their time! They’re not allowed to leave the campus, so that’s one good thing. The duty of the school is to educate students with knowledge the students will need in the future. Honestly, I think the school’s responsibility toward every student ends right when we pass the little green gate near the guard house. One of the school policies is that once you leave the campus, you cannot reenter. However, why can strangers come in, go out, and come in again as much as they want? They don’t even check those strangers. I personally think because those strangers don’t have the word ‘TCIS’ stamped on their head, so whatever happens to them simply doesn’t matter to the school. If the school wants to keep a student safe, it doesn’t make sense to not have a student enter the school for a second time. What I’m thinking is that each time a student leaves, the school thinks it decreases their percentage of risking ‘their own’ risk of destroying their own credit. Even if a student begs, begs, and practically begs on the floor, they wouldn’t allow, and won’t even care about the student’s whereabouts. It’s just that simple: THEY DON’T CARE. However, whatever happens to the student at the point where they’re already out of the school is simply not the school’s responsibility anymore. When something happens, there’s nobody or no one to blame, so obviously, the school always takes the blame because that’s the most logical explanation. BUT, the school is not your mom or your dad, so I don’t agree that they should ALWAYS take FULL responsibility everytime something happens.
School is where we spend half of our day, or even more. The school has to take care of many duties including to protect not only their students, but everyone inside the campus. The school has to protect the surrounding of the students, this mean to block strangers from outside who does not actually have the right to enter TCIS campus. Furthermore, there might be certain incidents that happens in the campus, therefore the school needs to protect al the students and try to solve vertain issues as fast as they could in order to not make anyone be a part of it. However, in school we receive education from teachers. Therefore, the school needs to make sure we are learning the right things and doing the right things that does not cause any harm to anything. It's duties also helps us to socialize and learn in a safe place. The major duty of the school is to make everyone in the campus feel safety and comfortable, therefore everyone can do their job, learn in a satisfied environment.
As soon as the student steps out the campus, the school no longer is responsible for the student. The school is not your guardian, as soon as you step out of the campus, you are now considered on your own, the school could not have done anything to help you. Yes, the school has every responsibility for every student's lives and safety, but when a student steps out of campus, how can the school help? They can't follow the student for twenty four hours, therefore students must also have resposibility for themselves. The school only has responsibility within the reach they could make with the students, if something is out of reach, they could have done nothing to help.
For example, something happens in your house, whether your parents are having a fight or somthing, what responsibility does the school have with that? So once you've left the school campus, the school no longer takes any responsibility, unless something happens in front or an area near the campus.
School is a place where students should be feel safe all the time eventhought they are out off the school. I know that the school will not provide anymore security if the students step off the campus. Let me ask evetyone this question. Imagine, what if a crazy man with a gun in his hand chasing your student and then that student ran back to the school for a protection, what would you have done? In my opinion, i will protect the student eventhought he /she step out off the school campus and come back again. Another question, if you're a student that being chase by that crazy man, where would go? For me, I would run back to the school because as a studentm, I believe that school is the most safest place during in that situation.
What would you do?
Students go to school everyday and spend most of their day times there. Student security in school is thus very important. It’s a big concern for students, teachers, and of course the parents. I do think that school has to be responsible for student’s safety in school; dangerous places such as parking lot, gate of school, play grounds, and etc… are needed for teacher or security’s supervision. Also, teaching students the positive and right ideas are also essential because we’re letting the students know what’s right or wrong, we’re guiding the right path for students to prevent students from learning bad habits under peer pressure or curiosity. However, I don’t think school should be responsible for the individual that stepped out of the campus ground. Because school can’t or doesn’t have the ability to guarantee every student’s safety once they’re out of campus. Nevertheless, school should give warnings to the students that they’re on risk once they’re out of campus and school holds no responsible for whatever happens.
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